Just a quick post to show you how North Wales Police put false information on the Police National Computer; last month I requested to the ACRO criminal records office to see what data they held on myself, readers of the blog anyone can request this information whether you have been in trouble or not. The local force in your area in England or Wales will hold this data, should the information be correct there shouldn’t be a problem but when the information is wrong it should not be on there. The police are very sneaky as we know, and they would put on incorrect information to benefit themselves, for reasons only known to themselves.
In August this year, ACRO sent me the information I requested, on reading it I found the information to be inaccurate, so I contacted them and spoke to the line manager and I asked him how come this information is wrong? Some of these addresses I’ve never lived at or even heard of, I have highlighted below the list of addresses I have never resided at, one of those addresses being ‘Bryn Arfon’, Conwy belongs to my sister and I am somewhat surprised how this has appeared on this form as I have never lived there.
So out of the 12 addresses, 3 are correct, 2 are repeated, 1 house has no number on it, 6 are incorrect and the local post man has never heard of them addresses, apart from my sister’s.
It’s quite disturbing to think what information North Wales Police have on their system regarding people, I would urge members of the public to write to ACRO, you people would be shocked to see what wrong information they could have on you; Their information was correct with my date of birth, my name, my sex and colour. They say they do have photographs of myself, I can’t comment because I’ve never seen the pictures.
On 21 August 2003, they confirm that they have DNA of mine, what for I’m not sure, they do confirm the DNA was destroyed, are the dates wrong and has the DNA been destroyed, I will never know. As you know when no charges are brought against you, your DNA is supposed to be destroyed as they say on the ACRO subject access request.
You can also see PC 2538 Rob Jones was the arresting officer for the alleged witness intimidation with Gary John Jones and Michael Plumb a.k.a. Gary Sky. Gary Sky works at Maelgwyn Public House where cocaine is sold on a regular basis; officer Jones puts on the PNC system 7 times that my conditions are not to approach the Maelgwyn Public House, Kimberley Road Llandudno Junction.
Please read the link below published on 23rd September 2018:
The gentleman I spoke to regarding my complaint to ACRO, urged me to immediately contact 101 and have the incorrect data removed, I have not contacted them yet but will do so in the near future. I asked the gentleman could I put this information on the Internet? he said you can do whatever you want with it, it’s your information; he reminded me it was private and it’s confidential, why would you do that? He was unaware I had a blog, I’ve done nothing wrong, but the information they hold is incorrect.
The next post will be on how the police have wasted the public’s money; it’s now about time I revealed who the ex- chief constable Richard Brunstom aka the Mad Mullah was having an affair with behind his wife’s back.
Carrying on from the previous post, I will now show you the statement made by Michael Gary Plumb a.k.a. Gary Sky. You will remember the post from Christmas day where you would have read Gary John Jones’ statements where he alleges he was assaulted by another male on the 21/02/10 which had nothing to do with me, Gary John confirms this in his statement, but on Tuesday 23/02/2010 Gary John says I asked him on the car park to retract his statement regarding the assault; there was only myself and Gary John on the car park and there were no independent witnesses.
Now let’s read Michael Gary Plumb’s statements
Readers of the blog, I don’t know how observant you are but did you notice what Mr Plumbs occupation is? He says he’s self-employed, that would mean he’s not the licensee, he’s a TV aerial specialist, we all know now he’s duped SKY for over 12 years by stealing their logo, he’s not a very honest man, is he?
Now look at the date when he made the statement which was 09/06/2010, when I spoke to Gary John Jones on the car park that was on the 23/02/2010 yet Mr Plumb’s statement is nearly 4 months after the alleged offence and all he remembers in his statement was that I entered the Maelgwyn on the 21/02/2010 with two other males and asked could I speak to Gary John, he says that he pointed over to where Gary John was and I went outside with the two males and Gary John. I’m not charged with the assault that happened on the 21/02/2010 I’m charged with witness intimidation that allegedly happened on the 23/02/2010 and Mr Plumb wasn’t present but what Mr Plumb does, is he downloads the CCTV onto a disk where Gary John is seen to be assaulted by a male and produces that disk at Llandudno magistrates Court as evidence, he gave it to PC 2538 Rob Jones.
He also gives another disk to PC 2538 Rob Jones, where you can see me pulling onto the car park in my white van and talking through the window to Gary John where I’m alleged to have asked Gary John to retract his statement, but how convenient Mr Plumb has no CCTV of Saturday 20/02/2010 when there is a brawl in his pub with Gary John and Gary John’s son attacking my son and there is no CCTV on Sunday 21/02/2010 of Gary John performing oral sex on Michael Gary Plumb behind the bar.
Michael Gary Plumb in Caernarfon Crown Court gave a sworn testimony which is evidence given by a witness who has made a commitment to tell the truth, if the witness is later found to have lied whilst bound by the commitment they can often be charged with the crime of perjury. When you took the stand Mr Plumb, you stood in the witness box and the court registrar handed you the Bible, he then asked you to repeat the following out: ‘I swear by Almighty God, that the evidence I shall give, shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’. I can imagine now Mr Plumb whilst reading my blog, you will be taking deep breaths and your legs will be buckled so take a seat and get a glass of water.
Do you remember stopping me on Wednesday 07/07/2010 the time was approximately 1145, I was going into BMW which is on the industrial estate in Llandudno Junction, I was accompanied by my wife; you were in your van with the fake writing on ‘Gary Sky’ not the 06 plate you’ve got now, it was the van before that. You were flashing your lights at me to gain my attention, I stopped, myself and my wife walked over to your van, I opened the passenger door and you said to me “Mick, this has gone too far, I don’t want anything to do with it and I’m not coming to court”, you also said PC 2538 Rob Jones had put pressure on you to make a statement, you went on to say “Rob needs me and Gary to give evidence or the case will collapse”. I replied “I’m not interested, you do what you’ve got to do” and I walked away; the look on your face, you looked very nervous and frightened as I walked away with Anita, I remember saying to her “that was strange him stopping me like that” I also said to Anita “he may have had a tape recorder on him”, that’s why I chose to say nothing and walked away because by now I had read yours and Gary John’s statements and you’re both a pair of lying rats and you thought you had the police in your pockets.
The point I’m making here is you never told the truth in court, you didn’t tell the jury this and do you know what else? You didn’t tell the jury that your previous partner, before Sugar Tits, she had to get an injunction against you to stay away from her because you were a very violent man towards her, do you remember when you smashed her head through the spindles on the staircase and you beat her up so badly she looked like the elephant man? You then concocted a story with her as she looked that bad, you told her to tell her parents that she had been in a car crash, what a s**t house you are, imagine them women on the jury, had they known this about you and all your dodgy dealings as well as Gary John’s dealings and PC 2538 Rob Jones’ affair behind his wife’s back.
Please readers of the blog should you enter the drug den where he works (The Maelgwyn), don’t wind him up, he’s like a bottle of pop at the moment that’s been well shaken, and is liable to explode any time.
I have also spoken to another female that went on a date with you, it was only the one night and she’s asked to remain anonymous; she said you freaked her out, you took your top off to show her the scratch marks on your back. She told me you are a weirdo and couldn’t wait to get rid of you, she said that’s all I can tell you about him. You also never told the jury that you duped your customers into believing you work for SKY TV and that the people banned from the PubWatch scheme are allowed back in your pub as long as they have soft drinks. You are a terrible man.
I can confirm Mr Plumb, the PubWatch scheme members want you off the committee as the head of PubWatch, so that shouldn’t be too long now and we hope that Sky TV prosecute you. There is still a lot more to come about Michael Gary Plumb, including letters to and from the local council.
Your comments are appreciated, again no bad language please.
Michael Garry Plumb known to people in the Aberconwy area as Gary Sky; Michael Plumb used to work for Crossville buses as a bus driver and not a good driver at that, he once crashed his bus into to a local solicitor Don Roberts from JW Hughes and co. Michael Plumb likes to think he’s a jack of all trades yet is a master of none, he is now advertising in local magazines as Garry Sky, Digital Aerial and Satellite Installation, I’m just trying to warn the local community to be very careful of this man.
Let’s look at his flyer as advertised in a local magazine:
He has the audacity to undermine SKY by saying “why pay SKY’s £75, when you can call Garry Sky?” How dare he steal SKY’s name, advertise himself as Garry Sky,is using a personal customer SKY email address to make it look like he’s officially part of SKY and has Garry Sky written all over his van, this must be a breach of copyright surely? There’s no point contacting John Donnelly head of Trading Standards at Colwyn Bay, remember readers of the blog he doesn’t answer his phone on a Friday afternoon, so what I’ve done myself is made a complaint to SKY mobile case team, I was given the lady’s identity number CHM90, the full facts have been given about Michael Plumb trading as Garry Sky, hopefully he won’t be trading much longer under this name. He’s a devious little bugger, I wonder if Sugar Tits has subscribed to the real SKY for the football she is receiving in the drug den, The Maelgwyn?
If you do call Michael Plumb to install your SKY satellite, just to be very careful when letting him into your home as some serious allegations have been made about him and as you all know he’s heavily built and overweight too. He has been known to break a few slates whilst on the roof so once you’ve paid him for the work he’s carried out, you will need a roofer to fix the damage he’s caused on your roof. Michael Plumb, can you please give the materials back that you borrowed a while ago from another TV satellite installer from the Conwy area, this installer does not wish to be named but Mr Plumb can you please return the items, much appreciated.
Also, Mr Plumb, should you see me on the Maelgwyn carpark taking pictures of your van and registration number, the fraud department from SKY asked me could I get them and send them the details. I would just like to point out I didn’t work for SKY TV and never have, I’m just cooperating with them just like you did with North Wales Police, when you made statements, gave the DVD to the police and also gave evidence at Caernarfon Crown Court, your statement will be shown in a couple of days in the next post.
Can I just take you back to your flyer you say “I can fix most problems” let me tell you Michael, you have got a few problems to fix, take it from me you want to go around to your ex-wife’s and fix the spindles on the staircase Ohh!! that sent a shiver down your spine, remember what happened there this will be told too on the next post.
Now moving on to Sugar Tits and yourself, the council tells us Sugar Tits is the licensee and you’re just a handy man that hasn’t got a dog license, but you’re the head of PubSafe, the Mickey Mouse committee why is it Mr Plumb you’re telling the members of PubSafe not to look at my blog? how dare you tell them that using your bully boy tactics are you Michael, well they are not listening to you, they are all reading it and so are the police.
Inspector Ian Verburg, he told the police not to read it either, they are using their wives’ phones to read it, that’s the worst thing you can tell somebody, they will want to read it more, I couldn’t tell people in North Wales not to read the Paedophile Post.
I know PC Gary Cooper visits Sugar Tits pub on a regular basis, I sent him a text last week as you know Mr Plumb once a person is put on PubSafe by your Mickey Mouse committee, he or she should not enter any licensed premises in the Aberconwy area until their ban has finished; can you explain in your next meeting to the committee why you or Sugar Tits are letting banned people back into the pub and you telling them you’re okay to have a soft drink, you know the rules if you enter a pub whilst banned, you get a further 6 months, I’m not having a go at these people who’ve been banned that you have let back in, it’s not their fault, it’s yours or Sugar Tits.
This is the text sent to PC Gary Cooper and John Donnelly:-
“Gary as you are the community beat officer for Llandudno junction something you may be interested in the picture I’ve sent is of a male who is currently on pub safe could you please explain to the pub safe committee as to why Gary sky has allowed this male into his pub telling him your ok for soft drinks. Gary sky should know better being the head of pub safe Gary is taking the piss out of the other licensees in Conwy could you please high light this in the next pub safe meeting I will forward you a video of this male with the time and date he was in the pub, so Gary sky can’t deny it, I’m not having a go at the lad who’s banned he’s edged his bet and Gary let him in thank you, Michael“
I have edited the man’s face as it is not for all to see. The PubSafe committee and PC Gary Cooper have this picture, Sugar Tits and Mr Plumb have done this quite a few times, letting in people who are banned, just remember Garry Sky or whatever trading name you come under, when you give evidence in court you have got to be whiter than white and you’re certainly not.
I know young teenagers read this site, I’m trying to educate them to stay away from the public house called The Maelgwyn in Llandudno Junction as there is a lot of drugs passed around in that establishment because I am anti-drugs and drugs ruin lives, just remember teenagers say no to drugs and stay away from The Maelgwyn.
Following on from the previous post of part 1, myself and Will could not get through to John Donnelly by phone, you have read the text I sent him when Will was writing the text out from my phone (07977928434) to John Donnelly’s phone (07717543699), I dictated to him what to put in the message and I deliberately spelt Thai wrong in the text. I don’t know how observant you are readers of the blog, had any of you noticed that? Correct way Thai, incorrect way Tai. Will asked me “why have you spelt that wrong?”, I said I would explain when we have a meeting with him but because we couldn’t get hold of him that day, I said to Will we will call again as he was going away on a mini break.
Just remember readers of the blog he doesn’t know who sent in this text. I did say to Will although we have got the recording and we know what he’s been doing and saying, when the day comes and I confront him, he’ll be that hard faced he’ll probably deny it. I’ve been dealing with people like him and the police for 40 odd years and you learn all the moves.
I don’t wish to take you off the subject for too long, but a good few years ago I was at Conwy United football ground watching Conwy play in a mid-week game, it was a cup game and very busy there. After the game had finished some supporters went into the clubhouse for a drink then eventually left, my Range Rover was parked in the car park and it was very quickly brought to my attention that a vehicle had damaged my car and drove off, smashing the lights and causing some deep scratches to the panels. I immediately went to the vehicle, checked the damage and picked up the broken pieces of lights and put them in my car.
After doing some quick checks, I discovered that the vehicle that crashed into my car and drove off was owned by a senior trading standards officer that worked for Conwy Council, I went back into the clubhouse asked the barman how many pints did you serve this trading standards officer, I gave a description of him and he confirmed he had a few pints. I then drove to this man’s house, parked my vehicle around the corner went down his drive, examined his vehicle and took photos of the damage, the colour of my Range Rover was clearly visible on the damage on his car.
I knocked on his door but nobody answered so I drove home, I got his telephone number and I phoned him that evening. I explained who I was on the phone and I was polite to him; I told him that he had crashed into my car and drove off from Conwy United, he denied all knowledge of it. I called him by his first name and I explained everything that had happened and told him I had spoken to the bar staff and they had confirmed he had been drinking, I reminded him on the phone you could be over the limit and that he had left the scene of an accident.
He then said to me “Mike, can I call you back in 10 minutes I will go and check my car”. He did call me back within 10 minutes, apologised and said I must’ve done it and not realised, he then said I will come down to your house I will just have to get a family member to bring me down. He did call to my house, it was quite late and he then admitted everything, I don’t deal with the police if I had, he would have been facing a few charges and wouldn’t have looked good in the papers, a trading standards officer given what he’d just done. He couldn’t thank me enough for not getting the police involved and I have assured him I would not repeat his name to anybody, the vehicle was taken to Conwy Land Rover and he paid the bill.
Moving back to John Donnelly, sometime about a week after 16 September 2016 I phoned and left a message for John to call me, I left my number and my name, he eventually called me back approximately two weeks later and as I said in the previous post he doesn’t know me, his secretary will now have told him a Michael Creamer has left a message for you to call him, which he did and at this time he was still unaware of the tape. He made an appointment that day for me to go and see him, I said I can’t get there until 5 o’clock, he said that’s fine. As I was engaged in a meeting with an Asian female who was studying law at Bangor University, when the meeting had finished I asked the female to accompany me to the council meeting. I said I would explain the reasons for the meeting on the way, we arrived at the council just after 5 o’clock; I told my friend not to say anything but to sit and listen while I did the talking, as I knew the case chapter and verse.
We met John Donnelly and the three of us went into a private room, I told him I was there to discuss Gary Sky who’s the licensee of the Maelgwyn and head of PubSafe, we went into a lot more detail and John told me Gary Sky is not the licensee of the Maelgwyn, it’s in Lynne Plumb’s name. I was already aware of this, I asked how was he the head of PubSafe if he’s not a licensee? John went on to say he was voted on by other licensees who were on the committee. I’m pretty good at judging people and I could tell John was very arrogant, so I let him waffle on before telling him about the recording. John also said the council and the police have nothing to do with PubSafe which I know was a load of rubbish, I also pointed out to John that there was a lot of class A drugs being passed around in the Maelgwyn and very active in the toilets, Gary Sky criticises other people and how they run their pubs, I told John he needs to get his own house in order first along with the watered-down beer.
I also pointed out to him about somebody having oral sex in the pub and people being paid cash in hand for working, John said we will investigate, hmmm, I wonder has he? I also mentioned to him the allegations about Gary Sky of a sexual nature, John said I’m duty-bound to report this to the police, I told John the police are already aware of it. I also said that I believe Will’s human rights had been infringed by these bullies on PubSafe, I also told him somebody who gets life imprisonment for murder, most are out after 12 years and have been rehabilitated. Look at John Worboys the ‘black cab rapist’ about to be released and allowed in pubs and here we have a PubSafe committee in Conwy giving people life bans. You may well hear a licensee saying the police have banned somebody, it’s a load of crap, that licensee has banned you and hasn’t got the balls to tell you to your face, so they blame the police, I discussed this with John Donnelly, he said the council nor the police don’t ban people, it’s the committee.
After listening to John talking what I believe to be a load of rubbish, he was far more interested in looking at the female who I was with. It was now time to tell him about the recording, I spelt out the word TAI out to him, Thai massage, the shock on his face “so it was you that sent me the text” I replied yes. I also told him I taped the conversation and said I’ll remind you of what I heard on the tape, you had been to your mothers on the Orme and chased sheep with a water pistol, by saying what I said, he had bitten the bait for me, he replied “my in-laws live up the Orme and I wasn’t chasing sheep I was chasing pigs”, I was happy with this, he didn’t deny it was his voice on the recording.
I also told John don’t you think it was very cheeky of your female colleague to say she had cut her hours down and that she earns more money in a couple of days at the council than they get for a week at Tesco’s. In his colleague’s defence, he said “well we’ve got better jobs than them in Tesco’s”.
Maybe you have, you people who work for the council want to remember you don’t do much and you wouldn’t like it if that gravy train stops. Myself and the lady I was with eventually left the council, even she agreed he was very arrogant. John Donnelly, if you can manage to get out of the office I would like you to apologise to the staff at Tesco’s for what your female colleague said and while you’re there it would be nice of you to investigate the dirty bird in Tesco’s.
Not long after speaking to John Donnelly, I wrote a letter on behalf of Will pointing out some important facts, Will read it and signed it. I anonymously posted it through a pub door, it was addressed to the PubSafe committee, I do believe it was read out at the committee; Gary Sky and his committee had made a decision to lift Will’s ban and so was allowed back in the pubs, I believe that was the right decision and Will was told he was allowed back in the pubs.
Three days later Will got a phone call saying they had made a mistake, he was still banned and said they would review it after Christmas in January. That was the Christmas of 2016, so your decision which you were making in January 2017 has still not been clarified and it is now January 2018. Is this the way your Mickey Mouse committee run things, many people I have spoken to in the town say the same about Gary Sky, he loves having a hold over people.
Please look at the picture below, have you ever been put on PubSafe by this man?
This picture was taken early one summer morning coming out of a house on the Glyn estate, bottom of the hill, Llandudno Junction. He was on the phone asking ‘Sugar Tits’ to come pick him up.
Gary Lloyd, Gary John and Gary Sky, I’ve told people in the area that you all take drugs, some of you sell drugs and beat your partners up, what a bunch of cowards the three of you are. If you think you have got a libel claim against me, my address is 4 Parc Waen, Conwy, LL32 8EL; my telephone number is 07977928434.
Oh sorry I forgot, I’m telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and the truth hurts. What you three monsters have done and got up to.
You’re probably wondering who ‘Sugar Tits’ is? She is the licensee of the drug den in Llandudno Junction also known as the Maelgwyn.
Gary Sky, I used to drink in the Maelgwyn 37 years ago with my father when it was a pub and Kirk was the licensee, you Gary Sky and Gary John you would both have been in primary school, along with ‘Sugar Tits’. Once again, when Kirk had it, it was a fantastic pub and a pleasure to drink there.
See the picture below of me and my wife in your pub ‘Sugar Tits’ when we were 22, which was 31 years ago.
Finally, the next post regarding my complaints to the council and what Gary Sky has been up to, this will be posted in just over a week, which will be part 3 of this story. You must appreciate all the work that you don’t see, that goes into publishing these posts, it takes a lot of my time and I have to do it all on my own, some of the evidence which I have plus documents etc are very sensitive and I couldn’t let a secretary see some of these.
Thank you for your comments. Your comments are welcome and appreciated please stop the bad language. There’s many comments that come in that can’t be published because the language is too bad
This is the landlady of the Maelgwyn, Gary Sky’s wife ‘Sugar Tits’, just remember Sugar Tits, none of us are infallible.
I am now going to start to tell you the story of Michael Gary Plumb a.k.a. Sky who is the head of pub safe; a friend of mine Will Carlisle, asked me who could we go and see regarding the PubSafe committee when you are banned? Will got put on PubSafe when he was 16, I had a long chat with him about this; he received a life ban, this decision is absolutely ridiculous, the young lad who’s had a fight in the pub like so many others and they didn’t receive life bans.
A lot of young lads are foolish, but they do grow up, get married and have children themselves, anybody who commits a crime and does wrong I agree should be punished, maybe a year or two-year ban with restrictions is adequate but Gary Sky and his committee are pathetic to put somebody on a life ban, this must be against his human rights, who are these nobodies to make these decisions?
So, on the 16th September 2016, we decided to go and put these questions to the council, I was accompanied by Will Carlisle; the two of us went to the town hall in Llandudno to speak to Peter Brown, I asked the lady at the town hall reception could I speak to Peter Brown, she asked what was it about, so I told her she said Peter was not in and that the man I needed to speak to was John Donnelly, Principle Trading Standards and licensing officer. The lady was very helpful and said John’s office was in Colwyn Bay by police HQ, she said I will ring him and tell him you’re going over she tried his office 3 to 4 times while Will and I were there, she said he’s not picking his phone up, she then tried his mobile a few times as well, he didn’t answer that either. By this time 20 minutes had passed, she said there’s nothing more I can do, so she gave me John’s mobile and she said if you get through, let him know you’re on your way over. I would just like to point out that neither me or Will have ever spoken to John Donnelly and I had never heard of him.
While Will and myself were sat in the car in the town hall car park I phoned John Donnelly’s mobile at least half a dozen times and what John was doing every time I rang, he would press the red button and cut me off, again nothing against John he doesn’t know me or my number but what John eventually did after about the 7th time of calling, he made the mistake of pressing the green button and not the red one, he thought he had cut me off, but he hadn’t and I could hear him talking, so I put my phone on loudspeaker and me & Will listened to his conversation for just short of an hour I got Will’s phone and I recorded the conversation.
I must admit while we were sat recording what we were listening to, we were finding it hard not to laugh as well as being amazed as to what John Donnelly was saying to his female colleagues, no wonder they wouldn’t answer the telephone from the receptionist at the town hall.
It’s a Friday afternoon, John Donnelly is the principal trading standards & licensing officer at Conwy County Borough Council who earns a very good salary but doesn’t want to pick the phone up on a Friday afternoon as he doesn’t want to be bothered by any members of the public. During the two-way conversation, you could hear the lady saying she has ‘cut her hours down to working 2 days a week now and that she gets more money at the council working 2 days than them lot get a week for working in Tesco’s’. My apologies to any Tesco workers who are offended by her statement.
You could also hear John saying that it was his anniversary and he was taking his wife away for the weekend and that he was going for a Thai massage, he also said when he goes up to this mum’s house who lives on the Orme, he said when the sheep come into the garden, he gets his gun which is a water pistol and chases the sheep out of the garden; I’m not going to say much more of that what was recorded as it’s just under an hour-long.
I am not going to release the recordings yet as my complaint is still ongoing and I may have to go to the legal ombudsman. What I did do on Friday 16th September at 15;42 was, I sent a text from my phone wishing him a happy anniversary he may well thought I was a council worker, he text me back at 17:23 the same day saying thank you, I called myself ‘Paul’, please see the text I sent him below.
I only went with Will Carlisle to ask the council why is he on a life ban and could this be lifted? I now find myself in a situation where I now need to make a complaint to Peter Brown regarding the conduct of John Donnelly, who is being paid to be in work yet won’t answer the telephone and his female colleague bragging and laughing at those people that work in Tesco’s, who have to work for a week to get what she gets paid in two days and John’s chasing sheep around the Orme with a water pistol. I just want to remind you readers of the blog, that this man is the brother of Gary Donnelly, the police officer that was jailed for 18 months for sexual assault on a 14–year-old girl.
I know I haven’t written much about Gary Sky in this post but you will read his story over the next few weeks and my letters of complaints to the council regarding Gary Sky and the council’s findings bearing in mind some of these council employees are very highly paid and seem to be on the council’s gravy train being paid for doing bugger all & covering up for each other, which you’ll see from the letters and emails I have received from the council.
As there are so many letters and documents, I’m going to split the story up in to sections, this is part 1; part 2 will be shown on Thursday the 11th of January.
This story goes back to February 2010, it starts off with PC 2538 Rob Jones who you will remember from an earlier post where I published a story about Rob Jones parking on double yellow lines while he waits for his kebab. I reported Rob Jones on 24 March 2010 for the motoring offence he committed to Professional Standards, in a nutshell Rob got a telling off for it by PSD; you can read about this post if you click on the index on the right side where the names are listed. Rob was now gunning for me and at that time he was the community beat manager for Llandudno Junction and very friendly with Gary Sky and Gary John.
On Saturday 20th of February 2010, Gary John the rat, was drinking in the Maelgwyn in the company of his partner Carla Jones, the second rat Gary Sky was working behind the bar. My eldest son Michael entered the Maelgwyn with a few of his friends, Michael ended up in the same area as where Gary John and his family were drinking, an altercation occurred and I know for a fact it was started by the rat Gary John’s son.
Please read the rat’s statement dated 22/02/2010.
You will see from his statements Gary is a bit of a talker and can’t stop talking to the police, he drops people’s names in it.
I did my own checks talking to various people to see who did start the trouble everybody told me it was Gary’s son, egged on by Gary. You may think readers of the blog, that I’m sticking up for my son but I’ll tell you straight if he had caused trouble I would not have gone anywhere near the Maelgwyn, I would’ve let him deal with it himself and face the consequences.
I had also heard Gary John the rat, had that night been slagging me off. What I can tell you about Gary John is he’s a speed freak and takes a lot of amphetamine, he also snorts cocaine. I have witnessed Gary in the past in various pubs where he has caused trouble, I have to say never with me but what I can tell you is when he’s had the gunpowder up his nose a.k.a. cocaine fuelled with alcohol he thinks he’s ‘10 men’, he’s really hard LOL.
I’m not perfect but one thing I hate is when you’re in the pub and you have lads that have been snorting the gunpowder & drinking alcohol and they come over to you talking a load of s**t, it really gets on my nerves especially when their nose is full of powder. If I’ve got something to say about somebody I’ll say it sober, to their face and I will go and see them at their property.
After this incident occurred on the 20/02/2010 at the Maelgwyn, I thought I would go over to see Gary Sky and get the full story and view the CCTV so I drove over to his house around about 7.40 that morning which was Sunday 21st February, his van was not outside the property in Penrhos Avenue, so I drove to the Maelgwyn, his van was there, so I assumed he must be inside preparing for the breakfasts and cleaning the place etc.
I knocked on the double door to the entrance of the Maelgwyn, I waited a few minutes but nobody answered, I was leaning against the door and the door opened; it couldn’t have been closed properly, so I walked through the double doors, then went through the next set of double doors. As I’ve got to just before the men’s toilets, I could hear a voice saying “oh that’s nice Gary”, so I walked round to the area where the pool table is, thinking somebody was there with what I heard (Oh that’s nice Gary) I thought they must have been decorating then I could hear moaning and groaning which was getting louder. I walked back towards the bar area and as I looked behind the bar in the passageway that I think leads to the cellar, I couldn’t believe what I saw. Gary Sky was leaning against the wall he was wearing a khaki coloured shirt, beige shorts and a pair of boots and he was holding Garry John by the head; Gary John was on his knees wearing checked chef trousers and a dark colour top and Gary John was performing oral sex on Gary Sky.
I stood there in amazement looking at them, it seemed like ages but it was probably only 10 to 15 seconds, I also noticed on the bar there was half a dozen glasses and a bag of white powder, this powder wasn’t wallpaper paste. As I was leaving I remember giggling to myself and when I went through the main doors I slammed it hard hoping they would hear me, I then went home.
Later on, in the afternoon I called back over to the Maelgwyn at approximately 4:30; on my way over I picked up my nephew Michael Spencer and his friend Nicky Egan, on the way I told them what I was going to see the two Gary’s about but I never mentioned nothing to them of what I’d witnessed that morning. I told them if Gary John was in there I’d speak to him first, call him outside and I would then speak to Gary Sky after to get his version of events. When we entered the Maelgwyn, I approached the bar area, Gary Sky was serving and I was standing in exactly the same place where I had seen Gary John giving Gary Sky a blow job earlier that day, déjà vu all over again. I asked Gary Sky ‘where’s Gary John?’, I was trying to keep a straight face thinking what he had been up to that morning; Gary Sky pointed in the direction of where Gary John was, we walked over towards him sitting on the right-hand side, we passed approximately 15 to 20 lads watching the football on the big screen.
When I approached Gary John the rat, the gunpowder must’ve worn off by now, you could see he had drained, he was white and shaking. The little coward said to me ‘Mick, sit down, how is your Michael?’ I said Gary come outside I want a word with you he tried his best to say ‘Mick I don’t want to go outside’, I eventually got him to go outside with me. He stood by the double doors at the entrance, underneath the camera. My plan was to ask him why he had been slagging me off and to ask what had gone on the night before with my son and I was also going to tell him what I had seen him doing to Gary Sky that morning.
I started to tell him ‘who do you think you are slagging me off, if you’ve got anything to say about me, say it now to my face’, if he didn’t say it once, he said it 10 times ‘Mick, I haven’t, honest to god I haven’t’ and what happened next wasn’t planned; Nicky grabbed him, Gary fell to the floor, when he got up he ran as fast as he could over the railway bridge, big man the night before full of gunpowder up his nose but when confronted he runs away like the coward he is. I said to Nicky ‘why did you grab him?’ he replied ‘I borrowed him money about 5 to 6 weeks ago and I’m fed up of his s**t saying he’ll give it me back, he’s nothing but a liar’, I said fair enough.
I walked back in the pub to go and see the other little rat Gary Sky, I asked him to come outside too, when I got to the double doors there’s a CCTV camera, I said to Gary ‘is that camera recording’ he said ‘yes’, I said ‘rewind it and have a look who was here this morning just before 8 o’clock’ I couldn’t keep a straight face looking at him, I was being sarky when I said it, I shook his hand and left. My main reason for going to the Maelgwyn was to view the CCTV, this had now been messed up with what had just happened.
I can confirm Dan Parry on his Facebook he made a comment after the above incident had happened saying ‘it took 3 of them’, Dan I don’t remember you coming outside to help Gary?! I hope I’ve clarified the situation for you.
I know Gary John & Gary Sky will be reading this post today; Gary John has told a couple of his friends he can’t wait for Christmas Day to get it over and done with, well your wish has now come true.
I bet you two Gary’s, your legs are now buckled & your winded remember years ago when you used to watch the cowboy movies with John Wayne and John Wayne would say ‘get off your horse and drink your milk’ so have a little drink before you collapse. Have you had a drink? It’s now time to get back on your horse as you have a few fences to jump before the end.
Please read Gary Jones next statement dated 04/03/2010, he just can’t stay away from the police station.
I don’t know how observant you have been readers of the blog, but did you notice in Gary’s last two statements he says his occupation is a cook, he couldn’t boil an egg, maybe that’s what he was doing that morning on the 21st February in his chef’s checked trousers, yuck! Imagine getting a bacon sandwich off him, knowing his hands have been around Gary Sky’s mushroom.
Gary John is also a benefit cheat, so anybody who works for the DWP please check these dates on his statements to make sure he wasn’t claiming benefits at this time and also Lynne Plumb’s books & her tax affairs as she’s the licensee not Gary Sky. I’ve been told Gary John was being paid cash in hand off Gary Sky as he owed Gary Sky money and a few favours.
Please read Gary’s next statements which is dated 01/04/2010
Did you notice from Gary’s last statement to this one, approximately 4 weeks later his occupation is now a builder, all within 4 weeks, somebody must’ve bought him a Lego set.
Gary states on Tuesday 23/02/2010 that he spoke to me by the Maelgwyn, I was parked in the council car park in the front of the Maelgwyn, as I’ve driven out of the car park directly opposite the Maelgwyn Gary came running past my van wearing his chef’s trousers, it looked like he’d never took them off to be washed, as he ran past the van I did beep the horn, he stopped, he didn’t recognise who was driving. I was in the van alone, the vehicle was a white fiesta van registration LC51 WYH, when Gary finally recognised me, I wound the window down, he wouldn’t come right up to the van, he stayed back about 10 feet away, again with that worried look on his face, he said ‘Mick what’s going on?’ but wouldn’t come over to me, so to make him feel comfortable, I put my hand towards him to shake his hand, he wouldn’t shake my hand because he must’ve thought I was going to grab him, to make him feel at ease I said ‘look I’m sitting in the van & the windows open, I’ll talk through the window to you, I want to know what happened on Saturday night and why you and your son had started causing trouble?’.
You have read his statement and it was nothing but lies. Gary, I’m going to remind you of what you told me and I swear on my father’s grave this is what you told me, in your own words Gary this is what you said ‘my son Aaron is a little c**t, he caused the trouble the other night’ and you went on to tell me ‘he’s caused nothing but trouble in the Junction since he’s been here, I honestly don’t want to fall out with you Mick’. You went on to say ‘this week I’m sending him back home to Bethesda’ and you told me about his personal problems regarding his mother.
How would I know that Gary? I don’t agree with you calling your son the ‘C’ word, as we have all been young & silly, part of me was taken in by what you told me and that was the end of the matter regarding that about your son and I gave you credit for admitting he had caused all the trouble.
Do you remember saying that to me Gary? I know you know, but it’s gone too far and you won’t admit it now, I then reminded you about giving Gary Sky a blow job and told you the facts of how I’d seen you. You went red in the face and said don’t tell anybody else about it, I’m in debt to him. I am a man of my word and would never have said anything about it, the last time I spoke to you was on Tuesday, 23 February 2010 and when I left you as far as I was concerned I was still on speaking terms with you and I was happy to put the altercation between your son and my son behind me.
I didn’t know nothing about these statements you had made until Monday 05/04/2010 when PC 2538 Rob Jones arrested me at the Deganwy Quay on suspicion of witness intimidation and criminal damage. I know you were lying and I can now confirm you’re a horrible, evil bastard; you stated in that statement dated 01/04/2010, that I said ‘this can all stop’ from this you understood that if you pulled your statement there would be no repercussions against your family, you then replied in your words ‘I know it can all stop, I just have to pull my statements’ and that you were aware that if you retracted your statements that you made to the police, then the investigation would be closed.
Gary, can I remind you, you wooden top, you have not once said in your statement that I have asked you to retract it, and let’s tell lies & say you felt intimidated why did you wait from 23/02/2010 until 01/04/2010 to make a statement to the police? Which is approximately 5 weeks and you were supposed to be terrified,
Gary John then went on to say that he had funny phone calls and you were being threatened and the male who spoke to you on the phone, you didn’t recognise the voice, you describe the accent as being local and wait for it, the age bracket being between 20 to 30 years of age; so that counts me out, I don’t speak with a Welsh accent and at that time I was over 40 years of age.
I’m going to explain to you Gary, two things that have happened here, nobody made any phone calls to you and threatened you; you made it all up and you sprayed the graffiti on the wall & you colluded with Gary Sky and PC Rob Jones because Rob Jones wanted me nicked or is it the next motive.
Remember them lads from North Wales that are now on remand in Swansea jail on suspicion of drug charges, you’ve had drugs off them & not paid your bill, basically bumped them and then when you knew they were coming looking for you, you went in to hiding at your brother’s house in Chester until the dust settled, remember you grassed on them, then you carried on and got your drugs off another dealer.
Which one was it? first scenario or the second? Again, Gary the rat, you know hand on heart I did not spray that graffiti on the wall or make any phone calls.
Now look at the photographs taken from Rob Jones’s mobile phone where it shows graffiti on the wall at the bottom of Gary’s Road.
Please read 2538 Rob Jones’ statement on 05/04/2010
Now read Rob’s next statement from the 09/05/2010, he’s as bad as Gary John, makes a second statement 5 weeks after the first one.
I told you Rob Jones was doing his best to get me convicted, I was already on bail for mortgage fraud and now the second trumped up charge of witness intimidation. Rob, I’d just like to bring to your attention, when you were the community beat officer in Llandudno Junction, you didn’t put in your statement that you were having an affair behind your wife’s back, this girl lives at the bottom of the hill in Junction; I would love to tell you who it is readers of the blog, just to have a pop at Rob Jones but to be fair this girl has never done me any harm and I wouldn’t put her name on the internet for all to see. But if your kids read this blog or any of your wife’s family, my number is 07977928434, if your wife would like to give me a ring I would confirm to her all the details. You’ve had your little giggle with Gary Sky and Gary John over me, always remember Rob ‘he who laughs last, laughs longest’. When you gave evidence you never told the jury you were having an affair either.
Back to Gary John. I can see the worried look on your face Gary, you’re slowing down, kick that horse a bit harder, one more jump and we’re heading straight for the Crown Court. After Gary’s last statement on 01/04/2010, he decides it’s time to go back to the Police Station to make another statement, which is nearly 12 weeks from the last one, this is over 4 months later from when the incident occurred. Please read statements dated 26/06/2010.
I don’t wish to go on about this matter too much but you all read about Mark Hall in the previous post where he got six years for consensual sex, oh sorry the victim said she didn’t consent, but refused to give a victim impact statement. This is a poor girl who’s been raped, Gary John alleges that I’ve asked him to retract his statement, in his victim impact statement he says he can’t leave the house, his son who caused all the trouble in the Maelgwyn is not safe in the area and his younger son is concerned for Gary’s safety, Carla is also worried for Gary’s safety and is waiting on a call to say he’s been badly beaten up. He’s had security devices fitted at the property, he is a bag of nerves, he just wants the nightmare to end but he’s still going to go to the court to give evidence and tell lies.
What a drama queen, as I stated I’ve not spoken to the little rat Gary John since 23/02/2010 right up until today’s date 25/12/2017 which is approximately 8 years. I can confirm that Gary John’s house has never been burnt down, there has been no damage to the property, none of Gary’s family have ever been spoken to by me, none of the rat’s family have ever been intimidated by me or anybody else, it was all in his head. How do you feel now Gary after I’ve pointed this out to you? I’ve made you look a bigger p***k than you already are.
Please read the letter below from the CPS responding back to my solicitor Hogan Brown, when we were asking for disclosure Gary John had been arrested for criminal damage, maybe it was him who sprayed the graffiti on the wall but please don’t laugh, Gary’s interview tape had been damaged and could not be played or copied, how convenient.
I’ve highlighted G on the CPS letter
Read my statement from my interview at St Asaph custody, I answered all the questions put to me and denied those allegations, what I am surprised at Karen Dixon head Crown Prosecutor from the CPS at Colwyn Bay, somebody from your office has made a decision to charge me with witness intimidation and criminal damage, it just doesn’t make sense. Gary John makes the allegation, I deny the allegation and still do today his word against mine.
No independent witnesses to support Gary John and you relied on his evidence, a man that has criminal convictions and has sold drugs in the area for many years, it would be nice if you reinvestigated this case as Gary John lied under oath, I also know he was working and claiming benefits.
I have made a formal complaint to Mathew Frankcon the Public Protection manager at Conwy Council (complaint ref GF30888), he has emailed my complaint to North Wales Police I have little faith in them investigating it but I can’t do anymore, my complaint is now being passed to the council’s corporate complaints office, the matter should be dealt with as a stage 2 complaint (head of service level). In brief my complaint is about Gary Plumb aka Sky where he is previously beaten up one of his ex-partners, she was so badly beaten she looked like the elephant man also in my complaint there were allegations of a sexual nature, there are a few different girls involved and I know they read this blog, I will not publish their names on here, I will not go into detail now, I will tell you all when I do the Gary Sky post, again you girls will not be named I feel Karen Dixon that the criminal justice system has failed me for the reasons I’ve set out. .
When you have relied on a drug dealer Gary John, a man that beats women up Gary Sky & a police officer who parks on double yellow lines while he waits for a kebab and cheats on his wife, it’s a shame the jury didn’t get told the full facts, I have asked a senior member of the council do you think Gary Plumb aka Sky should be suspended from his position on PubSafe until the investigation is concluded, their answer was no comment.
PC Gary Cooper did Rob Jones say 2 sugars in my coffee or did he say 2 women?
I now end up in Crown Court, by this time I was already serving over a 4-year sentence for the mortgage fraud, I was brought up to Caernarfon for the hearing. When I spoke to my legal team in the cells, they said this was the biggest crock of shit they had ever seen in their life, I couldn’t agree more. What chance have you got of a fair trial when the ‘Paedophile Post’ puts you on the front page of their paper for an alleged witness intimidation? There are people getting cut up with knives & shot, along with serious drug related crimes but they couldn’t make the paper. What must the jury have thought reading this bulls**t?
Edited my face as paedophiles read this paper
Edited my face as paedophiles read this paper
I’m just standing in the dock in handcuffs and in comes Gary John to give evidence, he brought his dad with him on a walking stick; when he was cross-examined by my barrister Peter Davies QC, Gary was asked by Peter ‘would you describe yourself as an honest man?’ Gary replied ‘yes I am’. Mr Davies said to him ‘can you explain about when you got prosecuted for drinking & driving and having no license, can you also explain that you have been prosecuted for assault’. What does the drama queen do? He starts crying in the witness box in front of the jury and points over to me in the dock and says ‘I’m scared of that man there, you don’t know what he will do to me’. So Gary John you have a criminal record.
Gary, you missed your vocation in life, you should’ve been an actor, you could have played a good part in Coronation Street with Bruce Jones. What you never told the jury was that you have beaten your partner up on many occasions, you have thrown her on the floor & urinated on her and that you sell drugs. Merfyn Hughes QC the judge in the trial, although I hate that man, told the jury Mr Creamer is not responsible for the graffiti or the threatening phone calls and there is no evidence whatsoever to link him to this offence, but the jury found me guilty on the witness intimidation.
What they must be thinking now Gary after reading this blog and the things you have got up to, I think the judge felt sorry for you with your crocodile tears. The judge imposed a restraining order on me on 17/06/2011 for 5 years, that’s now finished Gary and not once did I approach you or any members of your family.
Gary, can I ask you why have you tried speaking to various members of my family whilst I was in prison? Begging them, saying ‘I just want to speak to Mick, I want it all to be over’. When I came out of prison I was in a party at the Labour club, you were in the men’s bar, Gary why would you pay for a round of drinks and tell the barman to bring them over to me and say they were off you? Did you forget I had a restraining order against me not to speak to you, remember I sent the drinks back to you and told barman to pour the drink over your head?.
Were you now getting worried I was out of prison and I was going to let the cat out the bag about you sucking Gary Sky’s little pork sausage?
How can you be banned from a pub for talking to Gary John on a council car park, nobody knew what we were talking about, but a few nights before this Gary John’s son caused trouble in the Maelgwyn and doesn’t get banned and Gary Sky says ‘the incident was recorded but got taped over on the CCTV system’ so he say’s, how convenient. But Gary Sky was able to produce the CCTV to Llandudno magistrates court when Nicky Egan grabbed Gary John.
Please read below my bail conditions
What’s laughable Gary, remember when you played football for the Junction, for the VAT man Haydn Williams and you were paid cash, no money went through the Junction’s books, what a committee. The money that got stolen from Haydn’s house was the football money, PC Gary Cooper investigated and the matter was closed, Haydn, Gary Sky and Gary Cooper running the Junction football team, is that where the three balls went missing, under their jumpers LOL.
Gary Sky also made a statement with you Gary John and attended court, I’ll show that statement when I do the post on him, I’ll leave that to the readers of the blog, when would you like the post on??
Gary John remember when two lads tried to throw you over the bridge onto the A55 and you were crying again & then ran away, then you wanted people to make statements for you and no one would, you caused trouble again that night.
There’s a few families in the Junction that you have fallen out with too, you went to the police over them as well. Remember the girl you were carrying on with in the Junction behind Carla’s back, I would love to say who she is, I’m only remaining silent on that one because I’m very friendly with one of the family, you like a bit of both, women and men and will do anything for money. Remember whingeing to Abbey Scaffolding because there were a couple of scaffolding poles in your garden longer than they should’ve been, you cried like a baby and got £2000 out of them.
You should have given that money to Carla for the amount of times you’ve pissed the bed, you owe her for a few mattresses. I’ve built bigger dog pens in my garden than that rabbit hutch you’re living in. I’ve put a picture up of the front of your house, I couldn’t help but notice your sky dish was encroaching onto the scaffolding companies space, I must point this out to them.
I’ve spoken to a few of your neighbours in Caradoc Road, none of them like you they said ‘he doesn’t say nothing when he’s sober but we hear his gob going when he’s had a drink’. I know people visit your house to purchase speed and other narcotics, this is a warning to you people, I know who you are. After this post has been posted, if I see any of you buying drugs off Gary John I will take a picture of your car, where you drop your kids off at school and I will put you on this blog. You have been warned, stay away from him and say NO to drugs. We get a lot of children that read this site and I don’t want them to be encouraged to buy drugs, people that know me, know I detest people that take drugs. Stay safe kids, say NO to drugs.
Your problem Gary John Jones is you want to ‘run with the hare and hunt with the hounds’. The meaning of this wooden top, is: to act duplicitously or hypocritically, to speak or act out against something, while engaging or taking part in it.
How can you be taken seriously as an anti-drug reformer when extensive documents reveal that you are a frequent user of amphetamine, so you can’t run with the hare and hunt with the hounds!
We’re finally at the end Gary, you’re going to struggle getting your Christmas dinner down you today, remember if you don’t eat your meat, you won’t get your pudding LOL!
The video clips I have of you snorting I might show next year. Remember Gary, I spent 3 Christmas’s behind the door, locked up year after year and last Christmas too, that’s a total of 4 Christmas’s missed; the Creamers are really going to enjoy this one and this is what we will be singing, please read the song lyrics:
Gary John, Gary Sky, Gary Lloyd & Gary Cooper hope you all get the Christmas you deserve.
I’d like to wish Mark Hall a very happy Christmas and good luck for 2018, the victim in your case has moved from Llandudno Junction and her mother has moved to Llandudno.
I know there are a lot of prisoners around the country that are waiting for this post to come out today.
The next post will be shown today at 6pm this evening
My apologies for the delay in these posts, the posts were originally due to be posted on Christmas Day last year, a couple of days before Christmas I was sent to prison regarding the Proceeds of Crime Order; I was released in the summer this year, that’s the reason for the delay. So, it’s now the time for the public to read the real truth of what they got up to and never told the courts.
They have been living on a knife edge for over 12 months, they have been in a situation in which nobody knows what is going to happen next and it is all their own doing. Do you remember one of the police campaign logos, ‘Rat on a Rat’? Here’s 3 of the biggest rats that ever walked the Junction; Michael Gary Plumb known as Gary Sky, nobody knows him as Michael, the 2nd rat is Gary John Jones and the 3rd rat is Gary Lloyd.
These 3 rats gave evidence at 2 of my trials, the first trial at Mold Crown Court in 2010 was for mortgage fraud, where Gary Lloyd was a witness and gave evidence and I say he never told the truth, very shortly you will be able to read Garry Lloyd’s statements and various documents and you’ll be able to judge for yourselves.
The other 2 rats Gary Sky and Gary John, gave evidence in 2011 at my trial for witness intimidation, their statements and documents will be shown in due course. Llandudno Junction is a close-knit community, a lot of people are related to each other and some of these people have brothers and sisters and obviously parents, if any of you are related to these 3 rats I am not having a go at you personally.
Some of the stories may be upsetting to read and you may not agree with what I’m going to say but these 3 rats when they told lies and gave evidence against me and helped me get convicted, didn’t care about me or my family. At the time, the 3 rats probably didn’t go back to their families and tell them they had given evidence against me so I hope they don’t go running to you to say look what he’s put on the blog about me it will all be the truth.
The first Gary’s post will be Gary Lloyd and it will be shown in the next week, then Gary John super grass will be shown on Christmas Day, it will be put on at 6 o’clock in the morning of 25th of December and later on in the afternoon we will have a Christmas cracker, it’s another two people that I’ve not mentioned their names before, you will read about it Christmas Day.
Gary ‘Sky’ Plumb
Gary John Jones
Any members of the public who make a statement to the police and should their case go to court, if it does you would have to swear an oath you are telling the truth, I can confirm these 3 rats wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face and I will prove this. There are a couple of other people that have made statements against me and my family who never attended court, you know who you are, I have their statements and they too will be shown. I hope you all can stand by your statements and be proud men.
Finally, many happy returns to Gary Sky, who will be 47 on Sunday 10th December, DOB 10/12/1970. You have a drink Gary on me at the weekend and good luck in keeping the Maelgwyn although it’s not in your name, yet you’re the head of PubSafe hmmm!!!
I think the net is closing in, I’m playing your song for the last time, hope you enjoy your story over Christmas, bye for now.
His honour Judge Rhys Rowlands QC dealt with two separate rape cases, the first one was PC Ian James Clarke of North Wales Police who worked at the major crime unit in St Asaph alongside DC Don Kenyon and Inspector Jason Davenport, you would have read about Ian James Clarke on this blog a few posts back, so you’ll already be familiar with the story.
There is something I can’t quite get my head around, His honour Judge Rowlands told PC Clarke of St Peter’s Park, Northorp, Mold “you have been convicted of the most serious offence of rape, not only did you behave in a wholly disgraceful and immoral way that night, but you took advantage of a woman you thought was badly affected by drink, she was not” the judge told him. So this judge knows this case inside out, he has sat and listened throughout Mr Clarke’s trial and after being found guilty he sentenced him to 5 years imprisonment.
I’m going to point out a few facts here, Ian James Clarke was a police officer in a position of trust and married to a police officer; Clarke couldn’t accept being found guilty, he tried to drag his wife down with him, telling people it was an agreed threesome, this is what the coward Clarke was telling people in prison. No statement was given in to say it was an agreed threesome by his wife. Judge Rowlands said the victim in this case had given her evidence with remarkable strength, a victim impact statement was read out to the judge.
Detective Superintendent Joe Williams from North Wales Police Protection of Vulnerable People’s Unit said Ian Clarke has been imprisoned for five years for a very serious offence of rape. To someone who is unsure as to what the police badge means as the profession of policing has evolved over the years, it is a most visible symbol of service that has taken on an almost iconic meaning, from a practical standpoint officers wear the badge as a means to identify who they are and who they work for, the law-enforcement badge is easily recognisable sign of legal authority, the badge symbol means:
To protect and serve…….not to rape women and not of fit people up.
Take a look at the full story from the Paedophile post below:
Now let’s look at the case against Mark Hall, just a couple of months after the previous case His Honour Judge Rhys Rowlands also had the advantage of hearing Mark Hall’s trial, Mark was also found guilty by a jury, we have to respect the jury’s decision although juries sometimes do get it wrong as I have pointed out on the previous posts. Mark too was sentenced at Mold Crown Court, the same as PC Ian Clarke.
The judge in this case, in his own words when jailing Mark Hall at Mold Crown Court to 6 years imprisonment, the judge said “the case involved Hall clinically taking advantage of the victim”, the definition of clinical in English is
1.) Relating to the observation and treatment of actual patients rather than theoretical or laboratory studies.
2.) Very efficient and without feeling coldly detached nothing was left to chance everything was clinical.
Remember what the Judge told Clarke, “you have been convicted of the most serious offence of rape” yet only gave him five years imprisonment and not forgetting his job being in a position of trust.
Every rape case in Great Britain, the victim gives a victim impact statement, in a very unusual case ie; the Mark Hall case, the victim decided not to give a victim impact statement. I can’t get my head round how the Judge passed a six-year prison sentence, the parole board take these victim impact statements into account before deciding whether a criminal should be released or what, if any restrictions are required.
Am I right to say readers of the blog, that the parole board should release Mr Hall from custody as the ‘victim’ in this case couldn’t be bothered making the statements?
Judge Rowlands says, Hall must register as a sex offender indefinitely and a restraining order was made, when you read this you must be as shocked as I am. We put our trust in law lords to write the law and the judges to apply it correctly and fairly, how dare Mark’s legal team go and see him in the cells after sentencing & convince a man who is dyslexic and doesn’t understand the law, telling him you’ve had a good sentence as you could have got 8 years. Mark being naïve, thought he’d done well. Disgusting.
I think Mark Hall’s family need an urgent meeting and should draw up a petition, get it signed so that the Right Honourable Prime Minister Theresa May could have this case looked at, as this case is flawed and rotten to the core.
Please read below what victim impact statements are:
” Victim statements may include descriptions of physical, emotional, financial, medical and other consequences of a crime. These statements allow the victims of crimes to add their voice to the proceedings in order to impact the judge or board responsible for making decisions about sentencing. Judges may listen to the impact statements in order to figure out how long someone should go to jail. A parole board might take the statements into account before deciding whether a criminal should be released, and what conditions the board should attach to their release. Besides affecting sentencing, according to the website Victims of Crime, victim impact statements are often useful to victims because they can be cathartic. After all, during the trial, the victims usually have a very limited ability to talk at all about their side of the story. Lawyers ask very narrow questions, and the victim’s opinions aren’t taken into account. Having a chance to read their side in open court can often be a crucial part of the psychological process of healing from any type of crime”
A lay person may not understand how important this statement is and once again somebody who was been raped should apply to the criminal injuries board for compensation.
Here’s a few articles out of the paper about evil women crying wolf, it does happen and I know it’s very hard to understand why a lady would do this to a man. Finally, Mark Hall continues to deny this allegation that was made against him, again just spare a thought for him on how he must be feeling in prison having been convicted with this heinous crime.
Once again thank you for the emails and comments, I keep telling you I can’t publish comments with foul language, I know some comments are nothing to do with this post, they are going on about Gary Sky from the Maelgwyn and how many girls he had in the back of his transit, I promise you it’s all going to come out shortly.