The 2 Gary’s That Are 2 Grasses, Have A Private Party In The Maelgwyn, Loads Of Cocaine And Cock-Tails!

This story goes back to February 2010, it starts off with PC 2538 Rob Jones who you will remember from an earlier post where I published a story about Rob Jones parking on double yellow lines while he waits for his kebab.  I reported Rob Jones on 24 March 2010 for the motoring offence he committed to Professional Standards, in a nutshell Rob got a telling off for it by PSD; you can read about this post if you click on the index on the right side where the names are listed. Rob was now gunning for me and at that time he was the community beat manager for Llandudno Junction and very friendly with Gary Sky and Gary John.

On Saturday 20^th of February 2010, Gary John the rat, was drinking in the Maelgwyn in the company of his partner Carla Jones, the second rat Gary Sky was working behind the bar. My eldest son Michael entered the Maelgwyn with a few of his friends, Michael ended up in the same area as where Gary John and his family were drinking, an altercation occurred and I know for a fact it was started by the rat Gary John’s son.

Please read the rat’s statement dated 22/02/2010.

You will see from his statements Gary is a bit of a talker and can’t stop talking to the police, he drops people’s names in it.

I did my own checks talking to various people to see who did start the trouble everybody told me it was Gary’s son, egged on by Gary. You may think readers of the blog, that I’m sticking up for my son but I’ll tell you straight if he had caused trouble I would not have gone anywhere near the Maelgwyn, I would’ve let him deal with it himself and face the consequences.

I had also heard Gary John the rat, had that night been slagging me off. What I can tell you about Gary John is he’s a speed freak and takes a lot of amphetamine, he also snorts cocaine. I have witnessed Gary in the past in various pubs where he has caused trouble, I have to say never with me but what I can tell you is when he’s had the gunpowder up his nose a.k.a. cocaine fuelled with alcohol he thinks he’s ‘10 men’, he’s really hard LOL.

I’m not perfect but one thing I hate is when you’re in the pub and you have lads that have been snorting the gunpowder & drinking alcohol and they come over to you talking a load of s**t, it really gets on my nerves especially when their nose is full of powder. If I’ve got something to say about somebody I’ll say it sober, to their face and I will go and see them at their property.

After this incident occurred on the 20/02/2010 at the Maelgwyn, I thought I would go over to see Gary Sky and get the full story and view the CCTV so I drove over to his house around about 7.40 that morning which was Sunday 21^st February, his van was not outside the property in Penrhos Avenue, so I drove to the Maelgwyn, his van was there, so I assumed he must be inside preparing for the breakfasts and cleaning the place etc.

I knocked on the double door to the entrance of the Maelgwyn, I waited a few minutes but nobody answered, I was leaning against the door and the door opened; it couldn’t have been closed properly, so I walked through the double doors, then went through the next set of double doors. As I’ve got to just before the men’s toilets, I could hear a voice saying “oh that’s nice Gary”, so I walked round to the area where the pool table is, thinking somebody was there with what I heard (Oh that’s nice Gary) I thought they must have been decorating then I could hear moaning and groaning which was getting louder. I walked back towards the bar area and as I looked behind the bar in the passageway that I think leads to the cellar, I couldn’t believe what I saw. Gary Sky was leaning against the wall he was wearing a khaki coloured shirt, beige shorts and a pair of boots and he was holding Garry John by the head; Gary John was on his knees wearing checked chef trousers and a dark colour top and Gary John was performing oral sex on Gary Sky.

I stood there in amazement looking at them, it seemed like ages but it was probably only 10 to 15 seconds, I also noticed on the bar there was half a dozen glasses and a bag of white powder, this powder wasn’t wallpaper paste. As I was leaving I remember giggling to myself and when I went through the main doors I slammed it hard hoping they would hear me, I then went home.

Later on, in the afternoon I called back over to the Maelgwyn at approximately 4:30; on my way over I picked up my nephew Michael Spencer and his friend Nicky Egan, on the way I told them what I was going to see the two Gary’s about but I never mentioned nothing to them of what I’d witnessed that morning. I told them if Gary John was in there I’d speak to him first, call him outside and I would then speak to Gary Sky after to get his version of events.  When we entered the Maelgwyn, I approached the bar area, Gary Sky was serving and I was standing in exactly the same place where I had seen Gary John giving Gary Sky a blow job earlier that day, déjà vu all over again. I asked Gary Sky ‘where’s Gary John?’, I was trying to keep a straight face thinking what he had been up to that morning; Gary Sky pointed in the direction of where Gary John was, we walked over towards him sitting on the right-hand side, we passed approximately 15 to 20 lads watching the football on the big screen.

When I approached Gary John the rat, the gunpowder must’ve worn off by now, you could see he had drained, he was white and shaking. The little coward said to me ‘Mick, sit down, how is your Michael?’ I said Gary come outside I want a word with you he tried his best to say ‘Mick I don’t want to go outside’, I eventually got him to go outside with me. He stood by the double doors at the entrance, underneath the camera. My plan was to ask him why he had been slagging me off and to ask what had gone on the night before with my son and I was also going to tell him what I had seen him doing to Gary Sky that morning.

I started to tell him ‘who do you think you are slagging me off, if you’ve got anything to say about me, say it now to my face’, if he didn’t say it once, he said it 10 times ‘Mick, I haven’t, honest to god I haven’t’ and what happened next wasn’t planned; Nicky grabbed him, Gary fell to the floor, when he got up he ran as fast as he could over the railway bridge, big man the night before full of gunpowder up his nose but when confronted he runs away like the coward he is. I said to Nicky ‘why did you grab him?’ he replied ‘I borrowed him money about 5 to 6 weeks ago and I’m fed up of his s**t saying he’ll give it me back, he’s nothing but a liar’, I said fair enough.

I walked back in the pub to go and see the other little rat Gary Sky, I asked him to come outside too, when I got to the double doors there’s a CCTV camera, I said to Gary ‘is that camera recording’ he said ‘yes’, I said ‘rewind it and have a look who was here this morning just before 8 o’clock’ I couldn’t keep a straight face looking at him, I was being sarky when I said it, I shook his hand and left. My main reason for going to the Maelgwyn was to view the CCTV, this had now been messed up with what had just happened.

I can confirm Dan Parry on his Facebook he made a comment after the above incident had happened saying ‘it took 3 of them’, Dan I don’t remember you coming outside to help Gary?! I hope I’ve clarified the situation for you.

I know Gary John & Gary Sky will be reading this post today; Gary John has told a couple of his friends he can’t wait for Christmas Day to get it over and done with, well your wish has now come true.

I bet you two Gary’s, your legs are now buckled & your winded remember years ago when you used to watch the cowboy movies with John Wayne and John Wayne would say ‘get off your horse and drink your milk’ so have a little drink before you collapse. Have you had a drink? It’s now time to get back on your horse as you have a few fences to jump before the end.

Please read Gary Jones next statement dated 04/03/2010, he just can’t stay away from the police station.

I don’t know how observant you have been readers of the blog, but did you notice in Gary’s last two statements he says his occupation is a cook, he couldn’t boil an egg, maybe that’s what he was doing that morning on the 21^st February in his chef’s checked trousers, yuck! Imagine getting a bacon sandwich off him, knowing his hands have been around Gary Sky’s mushroom.

Gary John is also a benefit cheat, so anybody who works for the DWP please check these dates on his statements to make sure he wasn’t claiming benefits at this time and also Lynne Plumb’s books & her tax affairs as she’s the licensee not Gary Sky. I’ve been told Gary John was being paid cash in hand off Gary Sky as he owed Gary Sky money and a few favours.

Please read Gary’s next statements which is dated 01/04/2010

Did you notice from Gary’s last statement to this one, approximately 4 weeks later his occupation is now a builder, all within 4 weeks, somebody must’ve bought him a Lego set.

Gary states on Tuesday 23/02/2010 that he spoke to me by the Maelgwyn, I was parked in the council car park in the front of the Maelgwyn, as I’ve driven out of the car park directly opposite the Maelgwyn Gary came running past my van wearing his chef’s trousers, it looked like he’d never took them off to be washed, as he ran past the van I did beep the horn, he stopped, he didn’t recognise who was driving. I was in the van alone, the vehicle was a white fiesta van registration LC51 WYH, when Gary finally recognised me, I wound the window down, he wouldn’t come right up to the van, he stayed back about 10 feet away, again with that worried look on his face, he said ‘Mick what’s going on?’ but wouldn’t come over to me, so to make him feel comfortable, I put my hand towards him to shake his hand, he wouldn’t shake my hand because he must’ve thought I was going to grab him, to make him feel at ease I said ‘look I’m sitting in the van & the windows open, I’ll talk through the window to you, I want to know what happened on Saturday night and why you and your son had started causing trouble?’.

You have read his statement and it was nothing but lies. Gary, I’m going to remind you of what you told me and I swear on my father’s grave this is what you told me, in your own words Gary this is what you said ‘my son Aaron is a little c**t, he caused the trouble the other night’ and you went on to tell me ‘he’s caused nothing but trouble in the Junction since he’s been here, I honestly don’t want to fall out with you Mick’. You went on to say ‘this week I’m sending him back home to Bethesda’ and you told me about his personal problems regarding his mother.

How would I know that Gary? I don’t agree with you calling your son the ‘C’ word, as we have all been young & silly, part of me was taken in by what you told me and that was the end of the matter regarding that about your son and I gave you credit for admitting he had caused all the trouble.

Do you remember saying that to me Gary? I know you know, but it’s gone too far and you won’t admit it now, I then reminded you about giving Gary Sky a blow job and told you the facts of how I’d seen you. You went red in the face and said don’t tell anybody else about it, I’m in debt to him. I am a man of my word and would never have said anything about it, the last time I spoke to you was on Tuesday, 23 February 2010 and when I left you as far as I was concerned I was still on speaking terms with you and I was happy to put the altercation between your son and my son behind me.

I didn’t know nothing about these statements you had made until Monday 05/04/2010 when PC 2538 Rob Jones arrested me at the Deganwy Quay on suspicion of witness intimidation and criminal damage. I know you were lying and I can now confirm you’re a horrible, evil bastard; you stated in that statement dated 01/04/2010, that I said ‘this can all stop’ from this you understood that if you pulled your statement there would be no repercussions against your family, you then replied in your words ‘I know it can all stop, I just have to pull my statements’ and that you were aware that if you retracted your statements that you made to the police, then the investigation would be closed.

Gary, can I remind you, you wooden top, you have not once said in your statement that I have asked you to retract it, and let’s tell lies & say you felt intimidated why did you wait from 23/02/2010 until 01/04/2010 to make a statement to the police? Which is approximately 5 weeks and you were supposed to be terrified,

Gary John then went on to say that he had funny phone calls and you were being threatened and the male who spoke to you on the phone, you didn’t recognise the voice, you describe the accent as being local and wait for it, the age bracket being between 20 to 30 years of age; so that counts me out, I don’t speak with a Welsh accent and at that time I was over 40 years of age.

I’m going to explain to you Gary, two things that have happened here, nobody made any phone calls to you and threatened you; you made it all up and you sprayed the graffiti on the wall & you colluded with Gary Sky and PC Rob Jones because Rob Jones wanted me nicked or is it the next motive.

Remember them lads from North Wales that are now on remand in Swansea jail on suspicion of drug charges, you’ve had drugs off them & not paid your bill, basically bumped them and then when you knew they were coming looking for you, you went in to hiding at your brother’s house in Chester until the dust settled, remember you grassed on them, then you carried on and got your drugs off another dealer.

Which one was it? first scenario or the second? Again, Gary the rat, you know hand on heart I did not spray that graffiti on the wall or make any phone calls.

Now look at the photographs taken from Rob Jones’s mobile phone where it shows graffiti on the wall at the bottom of Gary’s Road.

Please read 2538 Rob Jones’ statement on 05/04/2010

Now read Rob’s next statement from the 09/05/2010, he’s as bad as Gary John, makes a second statement 5 weeks after the first one.

I told you Rob Jones was doing his best to get me convicted, I was already on bail for mortgage fraud and now the second trumped up charge of witness intimidation. Rob, I’d just like to bring to your attention, when you were the community beat officer in Llandudno Junction, you didn’t put in your statement that you were having an affair behind your wife’s back, this girl lives at the bottom of the hill in Junction; I would love to tell you who it is readers of the blog, just to have a pop at Rob Jones but to be fair this girl has never done me any harm and I wouldn’t put her name on the internet for all to see. But if your kids read this blog or any of your wife’s family, my number is 07977928434, if your wife would like to give me a ring I would confirm to her all the details. You’ve had your little giggle with Gary Sky and Gary John over me, always remember Rob ‘he who laughs last, laughs longest’. When you gave evidence you never told the jury you were having an affair either.

Back to Gary John. I can see the worried look on your face Gary, you’re slowing down, kick that horse a bit harder, one more jump and we’re heading straight for the Crown Court. After Gary’s last statement on 01/04/2010, he decides it’s time to go back to the Police Station to make another statement, which is nearly 12 weeks from the last one, this is over 4 months later from when the incident occurred. Please read statements dated 26/06/2010.

I don’t wish to go on about this matter too much but you all read about Mark Hall in the previous post where he got six years for consensual sex, oh sorry the victim said she didn’t consent, but refused to give a victim impact statement.  This is a poor girl who’s been raped, Gary John alleges that I’ve asked him to retract his statement, in his victim impact statement he says he can’t leave the house, his son who caused all the trouble in the Maelgwyn is not safe in the area and his younger son is concerned for Gary’s safety, Carla is also worried for Gary’s safety and is waiting on a call to say he’s been badly beaten up. He’s had security devices fitted at the property, he is a bag of nerves, he just wants the nightmare to end but he’s still going to go to the court to give evidence and tell lies.

What a drama queen, as I stated I’ve not spoken to the little rat Gary John since 23/02/2010 right up until today’s date 25/12/2017 which is approximately 8 years. I can confirm that Gary John’s house has never been burnt down, there has been no damage to the property, none of Gary’s family have ever been spoken to by me, none of the rat’s family have ever been intimidated by me or anybody else, it was all in his head. How do you feel now Gary after I’ve pointed this out to you? I’ve made you look a bigger p***k than you already are.

Please read the letter below from the CPS responding back to my solicitor Hogan Brown, when we were asking for disclosure Gary John had been arrested for criminal damage, maybe it was him who sprayed the graffiti on the wall but please don’t laugh, Gary’s interview tape had been damaged and could not be played or copied, how convenient.

I’ve highlighted G on the CPS letter

Read my statement from my interview at St Asaph custody, I answered all the questions put to me and denied those allegations, what I am surprised at Karen Dixon head Crown Prosecutor from the CPS at Colwyn Bay, somebody from your office has made a decision to charge me with witness intimidation and criminal damage, it just doesn’t make sense. Gary John makes the allegation, I deny the allegation and still do today his word against mine.

No independent witnesses to support Gary John and you relied on his evidence, a man that has criminal convictions and has sold drugs in the area for many years, it would be nice if you reinvestigated this case as Gary John lied under oath, I also know he was working and claiming benefits.

I have made a formal complaint to Mathew Frankcon the Public Protection manager at Conwy Council (complaint ref GF30888), he has emailed my complaint to North Wales Police I have little faith in them investigating it but I can’t do anymore, my complaint is now being passed to the council’s corporate complaints office, the matter should be dealt with as a stage 2 complaint (head of service level). In brief my complaint is about Gary Plumb aka Sky where he is previously beaten up one of his ex-partners, she was so badly beaten she looked like the elephant man also in my complaint there were allegations of a sexual nature, there are a few different girls involved and I know they read this blog, I will not publish their names on here, I will not go into detail now, I will tell you all when I do the Gary Sky post, again you girls will not be named I feel Karen Dixon that the criminal justice system has failed me for the reasons I’ve set out. .

When you have relied on a drug dealer Gary John, a man that beats women up Gary Sky & a police officer who parks on double yellow lines while he waits for a kebab and cheats on his wife, it’s a shame the jury didn’t get told the full facts, I have asked a senior member of the council do you think Gary Plumb aka Sky should be suspended from his position on PubSafe until the investigation is concluded, their answer was no comment.

PC Gary Cooper did Rob Jones say 2 sugars in my coffee or did he say 2 women?

I now end up in Crown Court, by this time I was already serving over a 4-year sentence for the mortgage fraud, I was brought up to Caernarfon for the hearing. When I spoke to my legal team in the cells, they said this was the biggest crock of shit they had ever seen in their life, I couldn’t agree more.  What chance have you got of a fair trial when the ‘Paedophile Post’ puts you on the front page of their paper for an alleged witness intimidation? There are people getting cut up with knives & shot, along with serious drug related crimes but they couldn’t make the paper. What must the jury have thought reading this bulls**t?

I’m just standing in the dock in handcuffs and in comes Gary John to give evidence, he brought his dad with him on a walking stick; when he was cross-examined by my barrister Peter Davies QC, Gary was asked by Peter ‘would you describe yourself as an honest man?’ Gary replied ‘yes I am’.  Mr Davies said to him ‘can you explain about when you got prosecuted for drinking & driving and having no license, can you also explain that you have been prosecuted for assault’. What does the drama queen do?  He starts crying in the witness box in front of the jury and points over to me in the dock and says ‘I’m scared of that man there, you don’t know what he will do to me’. So Gary John you have a criminal record.

Gary, you missed your vocation in life, you should’ve been an actor, you could have played a good part in Coronation Street with Bruce Jones. What you never told the jury was that you have beaten your partner up on many occasions, you have thrown her on the floor & urinated on her and that you sell drugs.  Merfyn Hughes QC the judge in the trial, although I hate that man, told the jury Mr Creamer is not responsible for the graffiti or the threatening phone calls and there is no evidence whatsoever to link him to this offence, but the jury found me guilty on the witness intimidation.

What they must be thinking now Gary after reading this blog and the things you have got up to, I think the judge felt sorry for you with your crocodile tears. The judge imposed a restraining order on me on 17/06/2011 for 5 years, that’s now finished Gary and not once did I approach you or any members of your family.

Gary, can I ask you why have you tried speaking to various members of my family whilst I was in prison? Begging them, saying ‘I just want to speak to Mick, I want it all to be over’. When I came out of prison I was in a party at the Labour club, you were in the men’s bar, Gary why would you pay for a round of drinks and tell the barman to bring them over to me and say they were off you? Did you forget I had a restraining order against me not to speak to you, remember I sent the drinks back to you and told barman to pour the drink over your head?.

Were you now getting worried I was out of prison and I was going to let the cat out the bag about you sucking Gary Sky’s little pork sausage?

How can you be banned from a pub for talking to Gary John on a council car park, nobody knew what we were talking about, but a few nights before this Gary John’s son caused trouble in the Maelgwyn and doesn’t get banned and Gary Sky says ‘the incident was recorded but got taped over on the CCTV system’ so he say’s, how convenient. But Gary Sky was able to produce the CCTV to Llandudno magistrates court when Nicky Egan grabbed Gary John.

Please read below my bail conditions

What’s laughable Gary, remember when you played football for the Junction, for the VAT man Haydn Williams and you were paid cash, no money went through the Junction’s books, what a committee. The money that got stolen from Haydn’s house was the football money, PC Gary Cooper investigated and the matter was closed, Haydn, Gary Sky and Gary Cooper running the Junction football team, is that where the three balls went missing, under their jumpers LOL.

Read link below:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/over-2000-llandudno-junction-football-7720367

Gary Sky also made a statement with you Gary John and attended court, I’ll show that statement when I do the post on him, I’ll leave that to the readers of the blog, when would you like the post on??

Gary John remember when two lads tried to throw you over the bridge onto the A55 and you were crying again & then ran away, then you wanted people to make statements for you and no one would, you caused trouble again that night.

There’s a few families in the Junction that you have fallen out with too, you went to the police over them as well. Remember the girl you were carrying on with in the Junction behind Carla’s back, I would love to say who she is, I’m only remaining silent on that one because I’m very friendly with one of the family, you like a bit of both, women and men and will do anything for money.  Remember whingeing to Abbey Scaffolding because there were a couple of scaffolding poles in your garden longer than they should’ve been, you cried like a baby and got £2000 out of them.

You should have given that money to Carla for the amount of times you’ve pissed the bed, you owe her for a few mattresses. I’ve built bigger dog pens in my garden than that rabbit hutch you’re living in. I’ve put a picture up of the front of your house, I couldn’t help but notice your sky dish was encroaching onto the scaffolding companies space, I must point this out to them.

I’ve spoken to a few of your neighbours in Caradoc Road, none of them like you they said ‘he doesn’t say nothing when he’s sober but we hear his gob going when he’s had a drink’. I know people visit your house to purchase speed and other narcotics, this is a warning to you people, I know who you are. After this post has been posted, if I see any of you buying drugs off Gary John I will take a picture of your car, where you drop your kids off at school and I will put you on this blog. You have been warned, stay away from him and say NO to drugs. We get a lot of children that read this site and I don’t want them to be encouraged to buy drugs, people that know me, know I detest people that take drugs. Stay safe kids, say NO to drugs.

Your problem Gary John Jones is you want to ‘run with the hare and hunt with the hounds’. The meaning of this wooden top, is: to act duplicitously or hypocritically, to speak or act out against something, while engaging or taking part in it.

How can you be taken seriously as an anti-drug reformer when extensive documents reveal that you are a frequent user of amphetamine, so you can’t run with the hare and hunt with the hounds!

We’re finally at the end Gary, you’re going to struggle getting your Christmas dinner down you today, remember if you don’t eat your meat, you won’t get your pudding LOL!

The video clips I have of you snorting I might show next year. Remember Gary, I spent 3 Christmas’s behind the door, locked up year after year and last Christmas too, that’s a total of 4 Christmas’s missed; the Creamers are really going to enjoy this one and this is what we will be singing, please read the song lyrics:

Gary John, Gary Sky, Gary Lloyd & Gary Cooper hope you all get the Christmas you deserve.

I’d like to wish Mark Hall a very happy Christmas and good luck for 2018, the victim in your case has moved from Llandudno Junction and her mother has moved to Llandudno.

I know there are a lot of prisoners around the country that are waiting for this post to come out today.

The next post will be shown today at 6pm this evening

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